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Odd thing, though; a few months later I finally listened to those demo samples side by side... and was actually surprised to find that Real was clearly superior in every featured demo comparison. It wasn't even really close, and these were samples hand picked by Microsoft to show off WMA. The slick page had suckered me-- ME-- of all people, and I obviously like to think I'm smarter than that. So, I beg you, gentle visitor, to listen to the below comparisons and not just take my word that Ogg Vorbis 1.0 wins the comparison. Put on some good headphones, let the cat out and have some fun with it. We here at Xiph.Org worked carefully and diligently over the past several months improving every aspect of Vorbis, resulting in solid improvements in high bitrate reliability and a breathtaking improvement at low bitrate performance. I'd be annoyed to find out we could have spent half the time on a slick web page that fooled everyone into not actually listening. It would have saved alot of very hard work. --Monty, lead developer of the Ogg Project 20020719 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Format | Ogg Vorbis | MP3Pro | Windows Media Audio 8 | Real Audio 8 | AAC (Quicktime) | MP3Enc31 (MP3) | Yamaha VQF | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | -q 0 (VBR for highest quality) | -b 64 --managed (ABR for streaming) | 64kbps slowest high quality, allow mid/side, allow intensity stereo | 64kbps | 64kbps | 64 kbps, no intensity stereo selectable, 32khz sampling by default | 64kbps -qual 9, 22khz sampling by default | 64 kbps high quality setting, 22khz sampling |
| Actual bitrate (kbps) | 69 | 62 | 64 | 65 | 69 | 69 | 64 | 64 |
| Download compressed sample | .ogg | .ogg | .mp3 | .wma | .rm | .mp4 | .mp3 | |
| Download uncompressed WAV | .wav | .wav | .wav | .wav | .wav | .wav | .wav | .wav |
We chose this longer test from a smaller set of the most popular 'cutting edge' formats today, Ogg, MP3, WMA and MP3Pro.
Track: Compilation.wav; download original here
Length: approximately one minute
pre-decompressed WAV files provided for folks who want to compare without installing a hundred decoders.
| Compilation #1 | Ogg Vorbis | WMA8 |
MP3 (LAME 3.91) |
MP3Pro |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| mid-bitrate (128-ish kbps) |
.ogg .wav |
.wma .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
|
| low-bitrate (64-ish kbps) |
.ogg .wav |
.wma .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
Track: Compilation2.wav; download original here
Length: approximately one minute
pre-decompressed WAV files provided for folks who want to compare without installing a hundred decoders.
| Compilation #2 | Ogg Vorbis | WMA8 |
MP3 (LAME 3.91) |
MP3Pro |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| mid-bitrate (128-ish kbps) |
.ogg .wav |
.wma .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
|
| low-bitrate (64-ish kbps) |
.ogg .wav |
.wma .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
.mp3 .wav |
In the spirit of correcting this grave omission, we offer the original WMA and RM audio samples from that test, along with Ogg at matching bitrates. To be perfectly honest, these samples are relatively very easy to compress, probably explaining why Microsoft chose them. The samples from the above demos are more realistic tests of a general pupose codec. Regardless, we now present, "The Original Dare To Compare, now with 100% More Ogg Goodness"
pre-decompressed WAV files provided for folks who want to compare without installing a hundred decoders.
| Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F Major - J.S. Bach | Livin' on Borrowed Time - Travis Tritt | In the Dark - Mark Nelson | Tonight - Mark Nelson | |
| .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | |
| WMA 64 kbps | .wma .wav | .wma .wav | .wma .wav | .wma .wav |
| Real 64 kbps | .rm .wav | .rm .wav | .rm .wav | .rm .wav |
| .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | .ogg .wav | |
| WMA 48 kbps | .wma .wav | .wma .wav | .wma .wav | .wma .wav |
| Real 44 kbps | .rm .wav | .rm .wav | .rm .wav | .rm .wav |
There's so much more to rave on and on about! For example, the only low bitrate comparisons we've done so far have been at CD rate 44.1kHz (except where the competition couldn't keep up and had to downsample). As of this release, Ogg also supports a number of modem-rate audio modes... all the way down to 8kbps mono and 12kbps stereo. However, this test page is getting long; we'll leave lower sample rate testing and comparison as an exercise for the reader. The motivated listener may also wish to sample FNR (#fnr on irc.freenode.net) which streams at mid and modem bitrates exclusively in Vorbis.
Thanks for reading and listening!